Comments on: The barefoot runner: Coming in from the cold http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/ Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:01:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Andre Bermudez http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-2888 Andre Bermudez Sun, 30 May 2010 09:07:44 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-2888 Super awesome read. Truely! Super awesome read. Truely!

]]> By: Robin Watts http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-2851 Robin Watts Fri, 28 May 2010 20:48:37 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-2851 www.getgoingnc.com's done it again! Great article. http://www.getgoingnc.com’s done it again! Great article.

]]> By: Steve http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-1314 Steve Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:07:33 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-1314 This history: =================== In “Born to Run,” McDougall says our distraction from this smooth, natural way of running began in the early 1970s with the introduction of the modern running shoe, specifically Nike’s Waffle Trainer. Born on the waffle press of University of Oregon running coach Bill Bowerman, the shoe had a cushy heel that encouraged runners to foresake the forefoot strike favored by humans the previous 2 million years in favor of a stride-lengthening heel strike. This sudden heel-strike business was new to the foot, the ankle, the knee and assorted other body parts that have responded, McDougall writes, by breaking down. =================== is quite bogus. Lydiard was recommending an almost flat footed landing, with the heel striking just before the rest of the foot, in the early 1960s; so Bowerman certainly didn't invent the heel landing. Lots of guys were heel landers back in the 60s when I was in high school. And the original Waffle Trainer? A brick by today's standards. It certainly didn't have a "cushy heel". No way. The real evil shoe was the LD1000, and that was because of its extreme heel flair, which caused an increase in lower-leg rotation at impact and added stress on the knee. That was really the worst innovation of the 70s: heel flair (plus added heel lift). This history:
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In “Born to Run,” McDougall says our distraction from this smooth, natural way of running began in the early 1970s with the introduction of the modern running shoe, specifically Nike’s Waffle Trainer. Born on the waffle press of University of Oregon running coach Bill Bowerman, the shoe had a cushy heel that encouraged runners to foresake the forefoot strike favored by humans the previous 2 million years in favor of a stride-lengthening heel strike. This sudden heel-strike business was new to the foot, the ankle, the knee and assorted other body parts that have responded, McDougall writes, by breaking down.
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is quite bogus. Lydiard was recommending an almost flat footed landing, with the heel striking just before the rest of the foot, in the early 1960s; so Bowerman certainly didn’t invent the heel landing. Lots of guys were heel landers back in the 60s when I was in high school. And the original Waffle Trainer? A brick by today’s standards. It certainly didn’t have a “cushy heel”. No way. The real evil shoe was the LD1000, and that was because of its extreme heel flair, which caused an increase in lower-leg rotation at impact and added stress on the knee. That was really the worst innovation of the 70s: heel flair (plus added heel lift).

]]> By: JoeMiller http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-1136 JoeMiller Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:20:33 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-1136 What other surfaces have you ... "loped" on? I've yet to take the Five Finger plunge, but thought about it yesterday on a run at Umstead. The bike & bridle trail, usually like concrete, was loosened up by the recent wet weather; it was very forgiving in trail shoes (I concentrated on a forefoot strike), made me wonder what Five Fingers might be like. What other surfaces have you … “loped” on? I’ve yet to take the Five Finger plunge, but thought about it yesterday on a run at Umstead. The bike & bridle trail, usually like concrete, was loosened up by the recent wet weather; it was very forgiving in trail shoes (I concentrated on a forefoot strike), made me wonder what Five Fingers might be like.

]]> By: J. Reagan http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-1135 J. Reagan Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:25:29 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-1135 I have spent about 5 hrs. total in the Vibrams so far. I immediately altered my foot strike pattern since the heel is not cushioned. My first hour+ was at the gym with an indoor .1 mi. track. I cannot jog, but rather lope and catching my breath was the main problem. The muscles in the side of my calf complained and the ball of my foot was "rippled" a lot, not bruised. I was sore, but exhilarated the next day. Walking on cold wet ground severely chilled my feet. I consciously lean forward when walking to minimize heel strike. So far this is a gadget to me, but one in which I am much more interested than most. I walked (regular shoes) on the ATT and the pea gravel is wet and frozen as hard as the macadam surface. There is also quite a bit of debris from the windstorm on the trail: pine needles, cones and branches. I have spent about 5 hrs. total in the Vibrams so far. I immediately altered my foot strike pattern since the heel is not cushioned. My first hour+ was at the gym with an indoor .1 mi. track. I cannot jog, but rather lope and catching my breath was the main problem. The muscles in the side of my calf complained and the ball of my foot was “rippled” a lot, not bruised. I was sore, but exhilarated the next day. Walking on cold wet ground severely chilled my feet. I consciously lean forward when walking to minimize heel strike.
So far this is a gadget to me, but one in which I am much more interested than most. I walked (regular shoes) on the ATT and the pea gravel is wet and frozen as hard as the macadam surface. There is also quite a bit of debris from the windstorm on the trail: pine needles, cones and branches.

]]> By: JoeMiller http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-995 JoeMiller Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:13:30 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-995 Here's another take, for your comparison shopping purposes ... http://www.barefootrunner.com/2009/03/review-vibram-fivefingers-classic/ Here’s another take, for your comparison shopping purposes … http://www.barefootrunner.com/2009/03/review-vibram-fivefingers-classic/

]]> By: Josh http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-994 Josh Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:40:36 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-994 I offer my not-so-positive thoughts on minimalist shoes here: http://www.barefootjosh.com/?p=18 I do wear them in the cold and on the gravel-iest of gravel paths, but I run in them differently than I did before I started running barefoot. I offer my not-so-positive thoughts on minimalist shoes here:
http://www.barefootjosh.com/?p=18

I do wear them in the cold and on the gravel-iest of gravel paths, but I run in them differently than I did before I started running barefoot.

]]> By: JoeMiller http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-993 JoeMiller Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:15:20 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-993 Hey Dale, Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm intrigued by the Five Fingers and checked some out today. Hearing from folks who've already taken the first step is a huge help to the rest of us who are still in contemplation mode. So again, thanks, and keep us updated on your progress. Joe Hey Dale,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m intrigued by the Five Fingers and checked some out today. Hearing from folks who’ve already taken the first step is a huge help to the rest of us who are still in contemplation mode. So again, thanks, and keep us updated on your progress.

Joe

]]> By: JoeMiller http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-992 JoeMiller Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:12:00 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-992 Thanks for stressing the point, Barefoot Ken Bob. For the uninitiated, BKB is one of the most highly regarded advocates for smart barefoot running. Check out his Wed site at http://runningbarefoot.org. Thanks for stressing the point, Barefoot Ken Bob. For the uninitiated, BKB is one of the most highly regarded advocates for smart barefoot running. Check out his Wed site at http://runningbarefoot.org.

]]> By: Barefoot Ken Bob http://www.getgoingnc.com/2010/02/the-barefoot-runner-coming-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-990 Barefoot Ken Bob Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:55:46 +0000 http://www.getgoingnc.com/?p=641#comment-990 "If you wish to guarantee yourself an injury, then go out for a 2km run barefoot on a hard surface..." - Ross Tucker No one with infantile wisdom (especially infants) would try to run 2 kilometers the first time they run barefoot! When you try running BARE foot (rather than in minimalist footwear), your first time out of shoes in 30 years, your tender BARE soles should be yelling (quite wisely), "Not so far, not until AFTER you LEARN to run gently, and have given us a chance to adapt!" It's up to us to listen. “If you wish to guarantee yourself an injury, then go out for a 2km run barefoot on a hard surface…” – Ross Tucker

No one with infantile wisdom (especially infants) would try to run 2 kilometers the first time they run barefoot!

When you try running BARE foot (rather than in minimalist footwear), your first time out of shoes in 30 years, your tender BARE soles should be yelling (quite wisely), “Not so far, not until AFTER you LEARN to run gently, and have given us a chance to adapt!”

It’s up to us to listen.

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